Doug Emhoff Hopes to Redefine Masculinity in His Role: Exclusive CNN Clip

Doug Emhoff hopes his unprecedented career as the second man of the United States shows other men that supporting their loved ones emotionally doesn’t compromise their masculinity.

In an exclusive segment from Emhoff’s upcoming interview with CNN, the longtime attorney talks about trying to moderate racism in his position to support Vice President Kamala Harris.

“There’s toxicity, this male idea of ​​what a man is out there that’s not right,” Emhoff tells anchor Dana Bash. “And that’s something you really see when you’re doing this [work].”

Emhoff says that not all men would feel comfortable in his position, leaving his job to support his wife full time and perform the duties of the wife of the president. He hopes to “push back” on the idea that marrying a woman with a bigger role than yourself makes you less difficult.

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“A man is about loving your family, caring about your family and being there for your family and supporting them in every way,” he tells Bash in the clip, exclusively obtained by PEOPLE. “And no one can say that I’m not a difficult person and no one can ever accuse me of not being there and I stick to those I love, but I also care about people. I have compassion, I have compassion.”

He adds: “So we are confusing this idea that if in some way a man shows kindness or compassion for others or care for others, it is not masculine and it is not good. That is not true.

“One thing I’ve noticed over the years in many conversations with successful women is that in order to be successful in any way, their partners need to be comfortable living in their career shadow,” Bash tells PEOPLE. “Sometimes men say that’s fine with it – but when a woman gets all the attention it’s crushing. Doug Emhoff and I talked about it – the kind of conversation that doesn’t happen enough but it’s necessary for women to have true equality. .”

Elsewhere in the sit-down interview, which takes place in the family’s second home at the Naval Observatory, Emhoff opens up about leaving his job as a successful lawyer to move to Washington, and breaking several barriers alongside his wife as a first. the married man of the vice president – and the first of the Jewish faith. She also talks to Bash about her relationship with Harris and bringing him into her children’s lives.

CNN will air its full talk show, entitled Being…The Second Man, on Saturday, October. 29, at 8pm E.T.

The latest installment in CNN’s Being… series will air live on pay TV subscribers via and CNN OTT and mobile, or CNNonly where available. The segment will also be available On Demand starting Sunday, October 30, for pay TV subscribers via, CNN apps, and Cable Operator Platforms.

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